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The $35 Crest Experiment: Why it Failed - The Difference between Marketing and Advertising.

There are Nine Pieces to The Marketing Pie - Advertising is just one of them!We did a tongue and cheek post yesterday about not being able to sell Crest for $35.00 a Tube. There were really two main points that we thought about when putting together this nonsense tale.

The first was about the impossibility of selling overpriced listings in today’s real estate market.

So far 90+ of you have commented and most all seem to appreciate the overpriced message... from personal experience! (Just how many overpriced listings does each one of us have?)

The second, and perhaps foremost thing we thought about was the difference between marketing and advertising. Many professionals know this difference, but it has been our experience that some don’t, and that many Sellers and Buyers are not as aware of the difference as they might be.

Isn't it interesting how many Sellers these days tell us we're not "marketing" their house properly? How many of them understand that the fundamental component of marketing anything is always "Price"? And further, how many of them are actually talking about advertising and calling it marketing? We think pretty much all of them.

Let's see if we can help them out. So here goes the difference between the two:

Lets Define Marketing:
It’s the planning and execution of business methods and activities to sell a product.
 
How to Think about Marketing:
Think of Marketing as a Complete, Luscious Strawberry Pie.

  • There are Nine Pieces to the Pie.
  • Some Pieces are more important than others. (Price is the most important by far.)
  • All the Pieces Have to Work Together, and Independently to Complete the Marketing Pie.
  • The Pie won’t work unless you can eat the whole thing!

The Nine Pieces of the Marketing Pie: (not necessarily in order of importance, but in order of business execution)

  • Market Research (uncovers Price)
  • Product Price (the biggest slice of the Pie.)
  • Sales Strategy
  • Media Planning
  • Public Relations
  • Advertising
  • Distribution
  • Customer Support
  • Community Involvement

Let’s Define Advertising:
A public message paid for by a firm to promote the sale of it’s product.

How to Think about Advertising:
Advertising is only one piece of the Marketing Pie.

  • Advertising never works if the product is overpriced. (That’s why we can’t sell Crest for $35.)
  • Advertising is the piece of the Pie involved with getting the word out only.
  • Advertising involves strategies for ad placement and frequency.
  • Advertising often involves various media:
    • Print Media (magazines and newspapers)
    • Direct Mail
    • Billboards (we don’t have any to speak of in our market)
    • Television
    • Radio
    • Internet (80+% shop for homes here first)
    • The MLS (the next most important marketing tool after price.)

  • Advertising is the the most expensive piece of the Marketing Pie (presumably it has more strawberries). Public Relations is a close second, and Market Research is not far behind.

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We tried, but couldn’t sell Crest for $35.00 a Tube!

Crest at $35.00 a Tube! Come one, come all.Procter and Gamble just fired us. They gave us the right to sell Crest for $35.00 a tube for the last six months and we didn’t get one offer. The market is bad, we knew that, but we advertised the hell out of it. They said we’re through, and now they’re going to give this opportunity to someone else (oh darn!).

“But we do advertising better than anybody”, we told them. “You didn’t produce”, Procter growled as Gamble snarled through grimaced, Crest -streaked pearly whites, “You didn’t advertise it Right!” (They are such a lovely couple.)

We can’t, for the life of us, figure out why it didn’t sell. Lets see how we advertised it, and maybe you can tell us where we screwed up.

Internet:
80% of all people with a toothbrush look here first. So this is where we targeted our advertising first.
  • We hit all of the usual and customary sites, including Who’s Who in Luxury Toothpaste and Luxe Dental Portfolio.
  • We even put it on Craig’s List.
  • A also did a custom Website with a virtual tour of a good mouth brushing and a Dental Tips Blog.

The Dental Registry (DLS):
We’re all over it, and Dental.com (DAR) too.

Sometimes it's hard to outsmart a Tasmanian Devil.Television:
We did co-branded television and print campaigns. They were saturative, and based on focus group findings of what people most expect in their high-end toothpaste.
  • Campaign spokesanimal was Bugs Bunny.
  • Footage of Bugs had starlight filters on his two front teeth, which sparkled a plenty from every angle.
  • Featured celebrity endorsements from Mr Ed, Francis the Talking Mule, Bucky Beaver and a cable television special targeted to the youth demographic of Butthead getting his braces off. (Like Butthead, we still couldn’t score.)
Magazines:
Coordinated print campaign that ran concordant to television spots.
  • Bugs was featured first, with teeth prominent in all print ads. (Starlights added graphically to teeth.)
  • Included Scratch and Sniff Pages in Vanity Fair, Cosmopolitan and other high profile publications.
Newspapers:
National PR campaign to generate news, plus “Name That Rabbit” contest in local newspapers.

Direct Mail:
Postcard campaign to everyone in our data base who has a mouth.

Grocery Stores:
  • Point of Purchase Displays.
  • End Aisle Free Brushing stations w/ teaser samples.

Whew:
We were exhausted when it was all over. No stone was unturned in our effort, yet no sales.

What Did We Do Wrong?
That is the question. And we have no idea.

  • With everything we did, why could we not sell Crest for $35.00 a tube?
  • What can we do to stop Procter and Gamble from giving someone else this opportunity?
  • What does selling Crest for $35.00 a tube have to do with selling a house?

We appreciate your feedback.

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Christmas Valley - South Lake Tahoe, CA Neighborhood Updated.

Christmas Valley - South Lake Tahoe Real Estate Market statistics.

We’ve just updated Christmas Valley. Please click the link “Christmas Valley, CA” found in our left sidebar.  This will lead one to all current Christmas Valley listings, current escrow and all sales in 2007. Also included are all Christmas valley sales for 2006, 2005 and 2004.

Also included in our left sidebar are all other South Lake Tahoe and Stateline, NV neighborhoods, plus complete reports on the entire South Lake Tahoe and Stateline, NV real estate market. Here you will find current South Lake Tahoe and Stateline, NV real estate absorption rates as well. This is the most complete and up-to-date Lake Tahoe real estate information available online. Our goal is to provide you will all of the information... all of the time.

 Also found on each spreadsheet page for Christmas valley are statistics charts with the following:

  • -- Median Sold Price.
  • -- Average List Price.
  • -- Original List Price.
  • -- Dollar difference between original list and median sold price.
  • -- Percent difference between original list and median sold price.
  • -- Average Price per Sq Ft.
  • -- Average Days on Market.
  • -- Average Size.

Christmas Valley - South Lake Tahoe Real Estate Market statistics.About Christmas Valley:
 (Number homes: a few less than 600) Nestled along majestic mountains, Christmas Valley is one of our most desirable neighborhoods. Homes generally range from the low $400K’s to the $800K’s. Small, older homes are sometimes available in the low $300K’s, and larger newer homes are sometimes available... with values up to $1M or more. Features include some large lots, seclusion, incredible mountain views and the feel of living both in the mountains and in a country setting.

We offer this information as a public service. It is the most complete current information on Christmas Valley and the South Lake Tahoe real estate market available.

If you like what you see here and find it helpful, please call or email us for further help with buying or selling a Lake Tahoe home. We’re also always interested in comments and suggestions too. (Please use comments box below.)

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Bijou - South Lake Tahoe, CA Neighborhood Updated.

Bijou _ South Lake Tahoe Real Estate Market statistics.We’ve just updated Bijou. Please click the link “Bijou, CA” found in our left sidebar.  This will lead one to all current Bijou listings, current escrow and all sales in 2007. Also included are all Bijou sales for 2006, 2005 and 2004.

Also included in our left sidebar are all other South Lake Tahoe and Stateline, NV neighborhoods, plus complete reports on the entire South Lake Tahoe and Stateline, NV real estate market. Here you will find current South Lake Tahoe and Stateline, NV real estate absorption rates as well. This is the most complete and up-to-date Lake Tahoe real estate information available online. Our goal is to provide you will all of the information... all of the time.

Bijou - South Lake Tahoe Real Esate Market StatisticsAbout Bijou:
(Number homes: 1,372 plus) Bijou is also one of South Lake Tahoe’s oldest neighborhoods. It is also perhaps its most centrally located. Homes range from small, entry-level starters, to large remodels and some new homes. Some duplexes are also found throughout. Neighborhood features are location to shopping, recreation and entertainment, tall trees and some mountain, meadow, and forest views. Prices range from small, older homes in original condition in the $200K’s (not a lot of these anymore) to larger remodeled homes in the $500K’s, and now more.

Also found on each spreadsheet page for Bijou are statistics charts with the following:

  • -- Median Sold Price.
  • -- Average List Price.
  • -- Original List Price.
  • -- Dollar difference between original list and median sold price.
  • -- Percent difference between original list and median sold price.
  • -- Average Price per Sq Ft.
  • -- Average Days on Market.
  • -- Average Size.

We offer this information as a public service. It is the most complete and current information on Bijou and the South Lake Tahoe real estate market available.

If you like what you see here and find it helpful, please call or email us for further help with buying or selling a Lake Tahoe home. We’re also always interested in comments and suggestions too. (Please use comments box below.)

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Al Tahoe - South Lake Tahoe, CA Neighborhood Updated.

Al Tahoe  neighborhood of South Lake Tahoe, CA real estate statistics

We’ve just updated Al Tahoe. Please click the link “Al Tahoe, CA” found in our left sidebar.  This will lead one to all current Al Tahoe listings, current escrow and all sales in 2007. Also included are all Al Tahoe sales for 2006, 2005 and 2004.

Also included in our left sidebar are all other South Lake Tahoe and Stateline, NV neighborhoods, plus complete reports on the entire South Lake Tahoe and Stateline, NV real estate market. Here you will find current South Lake Tahoe and Stateline, NV real estate absorption rates as well. This is the most complete and up-to-date Lake Tahoe real estate information available online. Our goal is to provide you will all of the information... all of the time.


Al Tahoe - South Lake Tahoe real  estate market statisticsAbout Al Tahoe:
(Number of homes: 902) Highly desirable Al Tahoe is one of South Lake Tahoe’s oldest neighborhoods. Known for having some of the first cabins on the Lake, Al Tahoe features lake fronts, newly remodeled homes and homes and cabins in original condition, many of which represent significant updating and value increasing opportunities. Al Tahoe experienced high demand and meaningful value increases throughout 2004 and 2005. One reason for this activity is Al Tahoe’s close proximity to the Lake (most homes are within short walking distance) and its central location amid South Lake Tahoe’s shopping, recreation and entertainment attractions. Among the neighborhood’s features are tall trees, open meadows, lake and mountain views, some oversized lots and the feel of an alpine forest setting.

Also found on each spreadsheet page for Al Tahoe are statistics charts with the following:

  • -- Median Sold Price.
  • -- Average List Price.
  • -- Original List Price.
  • -- Dollar difference between original list and median sold price.
  • -- Percent difference between original list and median sold price.
  • -- Average Price per Sq Ft.
  • -- Average Days on Market.
  • -- Average Size.

We offer this information as a public service. It is the most complete and current information on Al Tahoe and the South Lake Tahoe Real Estate Market available.

If you like what you see here and find it helpful, please call or email us for further help with buying or selling a South Lake Tahoe home. We’re also always interested in comments and suggestions too. (Please use comments box below.)

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Lake Village - Stateline, NV Neighborhood of South Lake Tahoe Updated.

Lake Village - South Lake Tahoe townhome and condominium community.

We’ve just updated Lake Village, one of the Stateline, NV townhome and condominium communities in our South Lake Tahoe real estate market. Please click the link “Lake Village, NV” found in our left sidebar.  This will lead one to all current Lake Village listings, current escrow and all sales in 2007. Also included are all Lake Village sales for 2006, 2005 and 2004.

Also included in our left sidebar are all other South Lake Tahoe and Stateline, NV neighborhoods, plus complete reports on the entire South Lake Tahoe real estate market and Statenline, NV real estate market. Here you will also find current South Lake Tahoe and Stateline, NV absorption rates as well. Our goal for you is all of the information... all of the time.

Some Lake Village Townhomes have meadow and lake views. About Lake Village:
Set amid a hillside forest, Lake Village is a quiet, sedate, well-planned, highly desirable condominium / townhome community. Properties range from affordable townhouses to large, vaulted ceiling, lake-view sunset retreats. Many of the properties in Lake Village are used as vacation homes and can offer significant vacation rental income possibilities.   (Number townhomes: about 335).

Also found on each spreadsheet page for Lake Village are statistics charts with the following:

  • -- Median Sold Price.
  • -- Average List Price.
  • -- Original List Price.
  • -- Dollar difference between original list and median sold price.
  • -- Percent difference between original list and median sold price.
  • -- Average Price per Sq Ft.
  • -- Average Days on Market.
  • -- Average Size.

We offer this information as a public service. It is the most complete and current information on Lake Village and the South Lake Tahoe real estate market available.

If you like what you see here and find it helpful, please call or mail us for further help with buying or selling a Lake Tahoe home. We’re also always interested in comments and suggestions too. (Pleasle use comments box below.)

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Characteristics of the Second Home Buyer.

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The primary motivation for purchasing a second, or vacation home here in South Lake Tahoe is exactly what the name implies - for vacations and family retreats. It is a lifestyle decision. Second to that, but important to it, are the financial benefits of owning a second or vacation home. Buyers are increasingly motivated to diversify their investments and as such they believe the purchase of a second home as a family retreat is a good opportunity to do that. In other words, a vacation home purchase is for the family... and it needs to make some financial sense.

To best understand some of the buying patterns and motivations of the second home - vacation home Buyer, there are a number of factors to look at. Lets take a summary look at the most prevalent characteristics of all vacation home Buyers for each of the following. In so doing, this will give us a better understanding of what is important  to, and what motivates the vacation home Buyer in South Lake Tahoe as well. (We’ll do this summary first, then follow that with the full breakdowns for each of these following categories.)


 Reasons for Buying a Vacation Home: 74% of all Buyers use it for vacations or a family retreat.

 Reasons for Buying a Vacation Home, by Length of Tenure: 77% of Buyers since 2002 or earlier use it for vacations or a family retreat. 67% of Buyers from 2003 - 2005.

 Attributes Desired in a Vacation Home: 67% of Buyers want to be close to an ocean, river or lake.

 Leisure Activities of Interest to Vacation-Home Owners: 57% prefer beach or lake water sports. Boating is second at 38% and Gambling is a distant 4%.

 Distance between Primary Residence and Vacation Home: 26% of Buyers are within 100 to 299 miles away. 19% are between 50 and 99 miles away. 25% are 1,000 miles away or more.

 Proximity of Vacation Home to Primary Residence: 49% of buyers live in the same state.

 Location of Vacation  Home: 49% are in resort recreation area.

 Means of Transportation to Vacation Home: 82% travel by automobile.

 Vacation Home Structure: 41% are detached single family homes. 22% are cabins or cottages and 21% are buildings with five or more units (condos, apartments).

 Size of Vacation Home: 29% are between 1,001 and 1,500 square feet. 23% are between 1,501 and 2,000 sq. ft and 26% are larger than that.

 Value of Vacation Home: 18% are between $500,000 - $999,999. 15% between $200,000 -$299,999. 15% between $300,000 - $399,000 and 14% between 400,000 and $499,999.

 Value of Vacation Home Compared to Primary Residence: 68% are lower. 26% are higher.

 New vs. Previously-Owned Home when Purchased: 71% are previously owned.

 Timeshare Vacation Homes; 6% of vacation home owners own a timeshare. 94% do not.

 Time Spent in Vacation Home: 18% of Buyers spend 15 to 30 nights per year. 17% spend 31 to 60 nights and 16% spend 61 to 90 nights. The national median is 39 nights per year.

 Time Vacation Home is Rented: 75% do not rent. 7% are rented from 31-60 nights  per year. 6% rent for more than 181 or more nights per year. The national median is no nights per year.

 Time Renters Spend in Vacation Homes: 43% for 7 nights or less. 15% for 15 to 30 nights. The national median is 12 nights per year.

 Vacation Home as a Good Financial Investment: 65% of vacation home owners say yes, “better than stocks.” 12% believe it to be about as good as stocks.

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Summit / Tahoe Village - Stateline, NV Neighborhood of South Lake Tahoe Updated.

Summit Tahoe Village area of South Lake Tahoe Real Estate Market

We’ve just updated Summit / Tahoe Village, one of the Stateline, NV neighborhoods in our South Lake Tahoe real estate market. Please click the link “Summit / Tahoe Village, NV” found in our left sidebar.  This will lead one to all current Summit / Tahoe Village listings, current escrow and all sales in 2007. Also included are all Summit / Tahoe Village sales for 2006, 2005 and 2004.

Also included in our left sidebar are all other South Lake Tahoe and Stateline, NV neighborhoods, plus complete reports on the entire South Lake Tahoe real estate market and Statenline, NV real estate market. Here you will also find current South Lake Tahoe real estate and Stateline, NV real estate absorption rates as well. This is the most complete and up-to-date Lake Tahoe real estate information available online. Our goal is to provide you will all of the information... all of the time.


Some Summit / Tahoe Village townhomes have magnificent Carson Valley views.About Summit / Tahoe Village:
 (Number condominiums/townhomes: about 385) Perched at the top of the Nevada side of Heavenly Mountain. Tahoe Village and Summit Village are our two most desirable condominium / townhome communities. From small duplexes to elevator buildings, condominiums here range from modest studios to large, multi-floor, panoramic lake view and Carson-valley view properties. Many are vacation homes that produce strong vacation rental income.

Also found on each spreadsheet page for Summit / Tahoe Village are statistics charts with the following:

  • -- Median Sold Price.
  • -- Average List Price.
  • -- Original List Price.
  • -- Dollar difference between original list and median sold price.
  • -- Percent difference between original list and median sold price.
  • -- Average Price per Sq Ft.
  • -- Average Days on Market.
  • -- Average Size.

We offer this information as a public service. It is the most complete and current information on Summit / Tahoe Village and the South Lake Tahoe Real estate market available.

If you like what you see here and find it helpful, please call or email us for further help with buying or selling a Lake Tahoe home. We’re also always interested in comments and suggestions too. (Please use comments box below.)

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Zephyr Heights - Stateline, NV of South Lake Tahoe Updated.

Zephyr Heights, Stateline, NV area of South Lake Tahoe real estate market.

We’ve just updated Zephyr Heights, one of the Stateline, NV neighborhoods in our South Lake Tahoe real estate market. Please click the link “Zephyr Heights, NV” found in our left sidebar.  This will lead one to all current Zephyr Heights listings, current escrow and all sales in 2007. Also included are all Zephyr Heights sales for 2006, 2005 and 2004.

Also included in our left sidebar are all other South Lake Tahoe and Stateline, NV neighborhoods, plus complete reports on the entire South Lake Tahoe real estate market and Statenline, NV real estate market. Here you will also find current South Lake Tahoe real estate and Stateline, NV real estate absorption rates as well. This is the most complete and up-to-date Lake Tahoe real estate information available online. Our goal is to provide you will all of the information... all of the time.

Zephyr Heights views - Lake TahoeAbout Zephyr Heights:
(Number homes: about 450) Located next to the lake and on the mountains overlooking the lake, Zephyr Cove and Zephyr Heights feature some of the first property developed on the lake. Homes range from small cabins built in the 1920’s, to modest fixers, to hillside retreats to expansive, modern Lake front mansions.

Also found on each spreadsheet page for Zephyr Heights are statistics charts with the following:

  • -- Median Sold Price.
  • -- Average List Price.
  • -- Original List Price.
  • -- Dollar difference between original list and median sold price.
  • -- Percent difference between original list and median sold price.
  • -- Average Price per Sq Ft.
  • -- Average Days on Market.
  • -- Average Size.

We offer this information as a public service. It is the most complete and current information on Zephyr Heights and the South Lake Tahoe real estate market available.

If you like what you see here and find it helpful, please call or email us for further help with buying or selling a Lake Tahoe home. We’re also always interested in comments and suggestions too. (Please use comments box below.)

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2 Tales from our AR Infancy: The Who and How we met an NFL Quaterback in our Living Room.

AR Infancy - We were all new here once.AR is growing leaps and bounds right before our eyes. It's like there's a contest to see which can multiply faster: kudzu, rabbits or Active Rain? We think AR must be winning... it certainly appears that AR appeals to all of our's inner-"Thumper".

With rabbit-habit growth like that, it's easy to miss something. And that we do; each of us here misses great, amusing, helpful and inspiring information that passes by at increasing AR warp speed everyday. 

The AR weekly recaps help us not miss so much, at least not as much of the great stuff, the professional stuff, and that's a good thing. Still though, there are 44,155 AR people thumping at this moment, and there are that many good stories, exactly, to tell.

In thinking about this, we saw a recent post of Lenn's that caught our attention. It was a recap of things she had done before, and the point of it was not one of self promotion, but of being helpful. We all know her work, and her summaries of past product gives us a chance to see good things that we might have missed. We had not seen such a summary before, and we liked it.

The elusive inner-Thumper.Not all AR work is real estate great, however, not in the sense of professional profundity, epiphonic insight or career shifting magnitude. We're pretty sure the likelihood of us crafting something like that will range from rarely to not-in-a-coons-age to never. But that's not why we're here, not in this social network.

We're not here to train, or to be trained necessarily; we've had about as much real estate training as we can endure. It's nuance now that attracts, new thought variations built on a foundation theme of solid real estate principles and ethical professional practice. These welcomed nuances come, we think, primarily from getting to know our new found network friends better. From you pearls do come.

At our AR infancy, just shortly after we launched our other blog, we struggled over if we should or should not post background pieces about us. Maybe that was before we found the voice for it, or got over thinking it was shameless self promotion, and certainly before we realized the point of a social network is exactly to share things about us, who we are and how we think.

We posted two such pieces very early on. At babes in the AR woods time. One was about meeting a professional football quarterback in our living room in Paris when we were kids, and the other was about a recent interview my wife's son Olivier had with Pete Townshend and The Who. They are somewhat lengthy, this was before we learned the necessity of, and how to best break-down graphically a "wall of words" in AR.  We've been told these are fun reads, that they're quick from the first paragraph, and that they reveal some things others have said they appreciated about us.

We thought we'd dust them off, link to them in their original state and see if these might reveal more about who some of your new network friends are. We hope you find something here that amuses you.

Interview of a Lifetime - The Kid Did All Right!Here's the post about Olivier, Pete Townshend and The Who. 

 

 

How we met an NFL quarterback in our Living Room.Here's the post about meeting an NFL quarterback in our living room. 

 

 

 

 

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